RE: Choose one of two not so common Splinterlands cards or 1 HSBI raffle #111 [en/de]

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And since I don't want to use time to understand this whole Splinterlands.... !PIZZA !HUG

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You will see how many HSBI units you have and how much the next HSBI vote on your next post will be at https://peakd.com/@svanbo/wallet/others. 🤓 !WEED !HUG

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What a coincidence! I just have been looking into this! I got a vote of 0,018 USD which is not bad at all. Very happy with that. What I don't recall is how often I get such a vote. (every how many days/posts)?... !WEED !wine

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Every HSBI unit holder must have a vote balance of at least $0.063 to receive a vote of at least $0.021. 🤓 The vote balance increases based on the user's HSBI units every 2.4 hours as well as the total that can be added to all HSBI users without draining the voting mana of the HSBI curation bots. 😎 !LOLZ

More information on https://docs.hivesbi.com/overview/how-does-it-work (which isn't long). 😏 !PIZZA

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Interesting. Do you have any idea how long it takes for every 10 HSBI units to get to these 0,063 that generates an upvote? I mean with 10 HSBI it takes 4 days, with 20 HSBI 2 days, wiht 40 HSBI 1 day,... something like that? !BEER

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It's difficult for me to determine because I don't monitor HSBI vote balances (since I don't have any post yet that it can upvote yet anyway). 🤯 We can only wait for the HSBI founder's statement about that. 😅 !wine

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oh it's true, you're gathering HSBI but since you don't post, you can't get upvoted.... :_( !LOL !BBH

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@savvytester! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @svanbo. (1/1)

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Maybe the HSBI bot should allow users to opt in for comment curation. 🤓 !WEED

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In that case we could get more HSBI indeed !wine

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In that case, we might end up sponsoring each other for HSBI instead. 😅 !wine

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Can we sponsor more than 1 person? How many? !wine

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You can sponsor only exactly 1 other Hive account at a time for HSBI. 🤓 If you want to sponsor more people (where there is no limit to how many Hive users you may sponsor in total), you must do it separately for each Hive account. 😏 !WEED

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Automated comment curation ends up being much more problematic than automated post curation. We have some ideas to resolve this (using signal accounts that curate comments manually and following their votes) but doing it effectively requires completion of several projects.

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I think that one of the ways to implement comment curation properly by the HSBI bot is to have certain restrictions, such as only one comment curated per Hive account per day, vote not worth more than a defined value (such as $0.03), and a minimum character length (such as 250 characters). 🤔🤓

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Based on current estimates by the HSBI founder, it will take roughly 10 days to get a $0.021 upvote if you have 10 HSBI units. 🤓 It is inversely proportional, meaning if you have 100 HSBI units, you will just need roughly 1 day to get a $0.021 upvote on your next post. 😏 !WEED

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That means that it takes still quite a long time to fill up with my 26 Units I currently have got !PGM !CTP !HUG

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26 HSBI units will require roughly 4 days before you receive your next $0.021 (or higher) vote from the HSBI bot. 🤓 !CTP !HUG

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2cts is better than nothing and getting it every 4 days, means cts per month only with these tips... Meaning I get only 7 cents right? And these 7 cts are going to be divided between HBD and Hive.... Just to check if I got this right...?... !PGM !CTP !HUG

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That's accurate at current HIVE prices. 🤔 If the price of HIVE doubles, you will get $0.021 worth of HSBI votes roughly every 2 days. 😏 !WEED !PGM

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oh that's nice! !PGM !CTP !BBH

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@savvytester! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @svanbo. (1/1)

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If you have 1,000 HSBI units, you can get votes from the HSBI bots that are at least $0.021 roughly 8 times a day. 🤓 !PGM !CTP

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Though I'm not sure why you would want to. That's too rapid a rate to churn out quality content, for most people.

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I just meant that it is technically possible. 🤔 I should change the rate to a $0.168 once a day or $0.084 twice a day from roughly 1,000 HSBI (at current HIVE prices). 😅 !PIZZA

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Would that make roughly 2 times a day with 250 units? That would make an upvote for each of my posts... What happens if 've got 500 HSBI units but only 2 posts per day? (So no more posts can be upvoted)? !wine

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Once you have enough units for an upvote on every post, then you start getting larger votes on each posts, up to the maximum deliverable upvote (each voting account can only deliver 100% upvote to each post).

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If you have 500 HSBI units and only 2 posts a day, then each of your posts will get roughly $0.084 each. 🤓 !wine

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Each account starts with enough pending upvote balance to get their first upvote immediately. So really you're looking for how long does it take to replenish the pending upvote balance between votes. By my current estimate, for 10 units it's about 10 days.

HIVE price is in a decline right now, unfortunately, so the recharge times are creeping up.

Edit: Meant to respond on @svanbo's comment, but grabbed the wrong depth after clicking up through the thread for context.

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Thanks for the informative official response! 🤗 !LOLZ

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If it wasn't so sensitive to HIVE price we would include an estimate in the FAQ.

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Most Hive curators already notice the effect of the changes in the price of HIVE whenever they curate. 🤓

Maybe you can show an (approximate) formula to how fast the HSBI vote balance recharges, taking into account the price of HIVE. 😏

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0.018 means the calibration is wrong and needs adjusted (it's supposed to be 0.021). I will fix it.

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The 0,021 is to make sure it passes the dust limit of 0,02? I mean in case the post wouldn't get any upvote?... !LUV

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That's right. We had been targeting 0.02, but we found that sometimes the fluctuations in pricing resulted in votes below threshold. Usually other votes make up the difference, but that is not always the case, and many of our users like to support new Hivers that might not be consistently getting other votes yet.

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oh and 26 units I already have got :-) !LUV !PIZZA

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That means Hive users who have sponsored you for HSBI have spent a total of 26 units for sponsoring you, and also received 26 units for themselves. 🤓😏 !LOLZ

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Oh I thought I got these 26 units from all these raffles I'm participating in every day?... !LOL
!LUV

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If that's the case, then the giveaway hosts have also received a total of 26 HSBI units by awarding you 26 HSBI overall. 🤓 !LUV

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And can we as users also award them to someone? How is that working? !LUV !PIZZA

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I don't understand what you mean with award them to someone. 🤯 !PIZZA

You can sponsor someone an amount of HSBI units and get the same amount of units for yourself. 🤓 For example, if you want to sponsor @claudiavb 5 HSBI units, you must transfer 5 HIVE to the HSBI bot, and you and @claudiavb will both get 5 HSBI units (which means a total of 10 HSBI units for 5 HIVE). 😏

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So basically these HSBI are for sale?.... And how does the HSBI bot (which account is that?) know who exactly I would like to sponsor? I mean to give the HSBI to @claudiavb and not to someone else? !wine

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To sponsor someone for HSBI and get HSBI units for both of you, just send a HIVE transfer to @steembasicincome of a whole number (such as 1, 2, 5, 10, etc.) only and add the name of the Hive user (with the @ or "at" symbol) on the memo. 🤓 !PIZZA

For example, if you want to sponsor 1 HSBI unit for @savvytester, just send 1 HIVE to @steembasicincome so that both @svanbo and @savvytester will get 1 HSBI unit. 😆😅 !wine

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And like this they got added permanently into both wallets? Or is it only temporarily? !PIZZA !LUV

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Sponsoring someone for HSBI is permanent (unless a Hive user with HSBI units has gone against the HSBI rules). 🤓 !LUV

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I almost sent you some, but just in time I reconsidered that you cannot do anything with them since you're not posting. I've sent some to @claudiavb instead. But they aren't appearing yet. It's probably taking some time !wine

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If ever I publish a post a year later, then 1/3 of the HSBI balance that I accumulated will be applied to that post as curation. 😅 !wine

Anyway, I see that you have sponsored the Hive account of your daughter @claudiavb with 10 HSBI units, and delegated 200 Hive Power to the HSBI bot which gives you 100 bonus HSBI units until you withdraw the delegation. 🤓

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That's right. Afterwards I considered that the sponsoring isn't a very good idea, since it costs me hive, which is gone, while delegations culd be altered or withdrawn any moment. And apart from that these 200 HP as a delegation won't make a big difference on the total... I'll consider to delegate more, after powering up in 2 weeks... !BBH !PGM !CTP

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@savvytester! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @svanbo. (1/1)

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I can't say for certain if HSBI is "for sale", as it is marketed as Social Experiment to provide every Hiver with Stake Based Income according to the steembasicincome Hive account's profile description. 🤯 !BEER

Anyway, you can type !sbi status to get the latest update regarding your HSBI. 🤓

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Hi @savvytester!

  • you have 20 units and 0 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 1950076809806 or 0.829 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.276 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 92.77 % has come from your subscription level
  • 0.00 % has come from your bonus units
  • 0.00 % has come from upvoting rewards
  • 0.00 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards



    Have you seen our website?
    It's a great resource to check your Hive SBI levels, along with your history of who has sponsored you and what upvotes we have provided you!
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If all 92.77% of my HSBI shares came from my "subscription level", I wonder where the rest which is 7.23% came from. 🤯😅 @svanbo

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Where to type this? !HUG

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Just type it on any comment. 🤓 I don't know if it works on posts. 😅 !WEED

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Yeah, I've been trying it and it worked !sbi status !PGM !CTP

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Hi @svanbo!

  • you have 28 units and 0 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 106420040968 or 0.046 $
  • you need to wait until your upvote value (current value: 0.015 $) is above 0.021 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 97.03 % has come from your subscription level
  • 0.00 % has come from your bonus units
  • 0.00 % has come from upvoting rewards
  • 0.00 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards



    Have you seen our website?
    It's a great resource to check your Hive SBI levels, along with your history of who has sponsored you and what upvotes we have provided you!
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oh just like this in a comment? What are bonus units and how to get them?
!sbi status

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Hi @svanbo!

  • you have 28 units and 0 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 122959878451 or 0.051 $
  • you need to wait until your upvote value (current value: 0.017 $) is above 0.020 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

  • 97.00 % has come from your subscription level
  • 0.00 % has come from your bonus units
  • 0.00 % has come from upvoting rewards
  • 0.00 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards



    Have you seen our website?
    It's a great resource to check your Hive SBI levels, along with your history of who has sponsored you and what upvotes we have provided you!
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You can get bonus credits by delegating your Hive Power to an HSBI bot. 🤓 The bonus is removed when the delegation is withdrawn. 😏 !LUV

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e.g. to @sbi4 ? How much HP for how many HSBI? !wine

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You have to delegato to @steembasicincome for bonus units. We don't monitor delegation changes on the other accounts except for a couple people that delegate >5200 for weekly payments.

The ratio is 1 bonus unit for each 2 HP delegation. We recommend you have enough HP to consistently deliver 0.02 on a comment before you delegate to any third party unless you are rarely curating.

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Please explain why the structure of the HSBI vote values don't total to 100% according to HSBI bots, such as this. 😅

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That's a very old functionality that we thought would provide users with more insight into their votes, but it has never been accurate.

Originally it had subscription, bonus units, and upvote rewards. It didn't add to 100% because every account starts with enough pending value to receive their first upvote immediately. That was added as a fourth section, but there is no field in the DB that stores that value. Users that transferred their units and pending value across from Steem would also have a boost in that category.

It should just be 100% less the other three values, but in any case... most people don't have bonus units, and there is no reward for upvoting for the last four years or more. It doesn't provide much in the way of information; people mostly ignore it, and it hasn't been a priority to fix.

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Maybe you should just add an "other sources" field on the HSBI bot's response so that the total percentage will always be 100%. 😅

Thanks for the response! 😀 I believe @svanbo would find your official answer useful. 😎

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You already got an official answer there. 😎 !wine

However, I haven't checked if delegating Hive Power with a fractional part (such as 1.500 HP) will provide you with 0.75 bonus HSBI units, or if it will be rounded down to the lower whole number. 🤔😅

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There are no partial units, so it always rounds down to the lower whole number.

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I saw it, but I don't understand the "weekly payments" in "a couple people that delegate >5200 for weekly payments." !wine

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Maybe he means that the other HSBI Hive accounts (that isn't steembasicincome) aren't monitored for Hive Power delegations (which will award bonus HSBI units) except for those who have delegated huge amounts (more than 5,200 HP). 🤔 !LUV

Maybe if you want to delegate to a random HSBI bot, try to make it more than 5,200 HP. 😆😅 !WEED

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Don't delegate to random HSBI bots without discussing it with me first. The bot only checks delegation on the main account, and I look at the delegating accounts to confirm delegation is unchanged each week for the negotiated leases, not at the accounts they delegate to.

If you delegate to any HSBI account other than @steembasicincome, nobody will ever see it and you will get no direct benefit, unless you plan to delegate more than 5200 and discuss it with me first.

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And since there's a button "sponsor" in my peak wallet, can I sponosr them as well again to someone and I'll get one extra for myself? !PGM !CTP
How odd, I wanted to make a snip, and I don't see the "sponsor button any more :-(

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The only reason I see why the Sponsor button disappeared when you looked at that page is that either you got logged out or you looked at another Hive user's HSBI page (such as mine). 🤔🤓 !LUV

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ok, anyway, I'll read later in your answers what you've answered me about this sponsoring.... !LUV !HUG

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Hope that's not one more thing you would struggle to remember and do later! 🤗 !LUV

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Could be another one.... !LOL !LUV

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Looks like your comment there is just the same as mine. 🤯😅 !PIZZA

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